Allegedly, on or about 8 September 2017, Ed Greshko sent: > GNOME is trying to make updates more "user friendly" by doing them > during the reboot phase. If you're adverse to doing reboots then you > need to understand the risks, or problems, with doing things without > rebooting. > > You are sure to find plenty of people that will object to the > "Windows" philosophy that a reboot is required after every update. I certainly do, especially considering that rebooting has rarely been necessary after updates (beyond kernel updates), ever since I started using Linux (before Fedora existed). It just smacks of half-arsed programming to suffer this retrograde behaviour. The Windows-methodology of rebooting after/while updating is a major pain in the arse, for many reasons. It means you can't update while using your computer, because it's going to interrupt what you actually want to do. It's a major timewaster. You end up having to either do updates before *you* start doing things with your computer, delaying what you actually wanted to do, often by extraordinary amounts of time (by way of horrible example - with Windows Vista, I once watched the entire movie of Dr Zhivago during one of those update, and that's a bloody long film). Or, you wait until you've finished what you wanted to do, then let it do updates when you really wanted to shutdown and do something else. You often have to babysit, or waste even more time debugging update failures. That, or leave it running overnight. Only to find that when you want to use the computer, next time, you have to go through that debugging procedure. With the way Linux is getting worse and worse about this kind of thing, I wonder if we're getting more and more programmers coming over from the Windows world, where they just don't understand what's wrong with that philosophy of computing. That, or it's sabotage. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.12.8-300.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 17 15:30:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. You can't have equality AND special treatment. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx