On 24 March 2014 15:08, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 02:47:18PM +0000, Liam Proven wrote: >> I have to say that you are one of the most hostile, confrontational > > I said this before and I'll say it again if I have to (but I hope I don't). > Please, everyone, check out the Code of Conduct. It's linked in the footer > of every post, but here's a reminder: > > <https://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct>. > > Let's all work on elevating the level of discourse without getting into who > is or isn't starting it. On the topic at hand, remember that a lot of people > have put significant work into making the installer interface intuitive, > easy to use, powerful, friendly, and all sorts of other things all at > once. Many of the comments going by seem very dismissive of that, and it's > easy to see how that escalates into hot tempers. > > It's one thing to say "For me, this has missed the mark in this way", and > another to call all the work terrible or to make statements which imply > actual antagonism. I don't mean that it's perfect (it's not), or that the > developers are perfect (they're human!), or that the frustrations aren't > real -- just please be aware how that might feel to people on the other side > of the equation. > > Please, everyone, assume good faith on the part of the other. Software > developers have the best intentions in making changes, and frustrated users > are just frustrated. Good point, well made. I hope that my observations did not seem like a personal attack. They were not meant to be. -- Liam Proven * Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven@xxxxxxxxx * GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven@xxxxxxxxxxx * Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 * Cell: +44 7939-087884 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org