On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Liam Proven <lproven@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 22 March 2014 18:25, Ed Greshko <ed.greshko@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Make sure you file a bugzilla. > > How/why? It's not a bug. How do you know? You haven't filed a bug report, you haven't presented any logs to anyone to find out if what you're experiencing is in fact intended behavior. You haven't even stated the nature of the installation failure. >> Talking about it on this list will not result in any action. > > Won't it? Why not? Are there multiple non-overlapping user communities > for Fedora, then? A problem is a problem; where it is reported > shouldn't matter, should it? It will not. Because this is the user to user forum. To cause a design change in the installer means posting to the Red Hat anaconda-devel@ list. To cause a design change specific to Fedora means posting to the Fedora devel@ list. Bugs, requests for enhancement, and even perceived clearly articulated design flaws should have bug reports filed. Pretty much always when an installer bug is filed, the installer logs should be attached (at least program.log and storage.log). Yes it matters. > >> Of course, you'll have to be able to consistently repeat the problem and be willing to document it well. > > No can do. The bug is "won't install on my computer". That's not > useful info and that's why I would not normally consider filing it. You're seriously acting like this is your first day at the rodeo. You are supposed to state what did happen, including any error messages received, and how this differs from your expectation of what should have happened. The installer always keeps logs in /tmp - so go try a Fedora baremetal install and when it "won't install" and you're stuck, post the /tmp/anaconda.log, /tmp/program.log, and /tmp/storage.log. You can even fpaste them directly from the shell, just fpaste <filename> and then note the URL and post it. Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org