On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 07:36 +0600, g wrote: > also, understand that i am not, nor have i intended to infer, > that the *exact* same _process_, including the pid, is restarted, > only that the *processes* on the task bar are _restarted_. As long as we agree that "restarted" is not the same as "continued", that is exactly the point I'm trying to make. In your earlier posts you appear to say that a change in process environment (e.g. caused by modifying an exported Shell variable) can affect the behaviour of other processes not descended from it. That's the conclusion I draw from your earlier description of what's happening in various terminals, but please correct me if I've misunderstood. My suggestion about listing PIDs is merely to illustrate that by ending a KDE session and starting another one you get a different set of processes, so environment changes occurring prior to the new session will be reflected in the new processes. However if instead of ending the session you merely execute a new terminal that doesn't inherit from one where you made the change (say by clicking on the desktop menu) then the environment of that new process will be the unmodified version as seen by the rest of the current session. IOW, if you want an environment change to be seen by the entire session, the only practical way to do it is by terminating the session and running another one. This is most commonly done by logging out and in again. poc -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org