On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:09:00 +0100 Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 01/05/2014 02:27 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Jan 4, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@xxxxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > >> But since we are bashing around about unnecessary default > >> services, one set of services that I would actually like to see > >> removed is the NFS stack (nfs, nfslock, portmap, ...). Arguably, a > >> typical desktop OS with a GUI has absolutely no need of networked > >> file systems, especially as obsolete as NFS. I've used Fedora for > >> as long as it exists, and I've never seen anyone actually use NFS > >> in real life scenarios on a typical desktop machine with a GUI. > >> That's also got to be in the 99% of cases… > > This only means your usage scenarios are very limited. Actually, all > my Linux systems have been using nfs ever since Linux supports it and > ever since I am running/administrating networks. Ralf, apparently you missed the context here. :-) I was applying Chris' logic to something that is not an mta. And to apply it further, I could argue that Fedora, being a typical desktop OS with a GUI, does not target network administrators as a default audience. When people complained about the absence of mta in the default install, Chris answers "just do a yum install your-favorite-mta and be happy". So an analogous answer to you would be "just yum install the-nfs-stack and be happy". The point of my comment was to demonstrate that removing the mta is as absurd as removing the nfs, sshd, or whatever other service. Devs should not drop stuff out of the default install only on the basis of some imaginary target audience. There will always be a target group of people who rely on precisely that piece of functionality, and are used to the fact that it is installed by default. The issues raised about mta, nfs, sshd, etc. are only examples of this. Your response wrt. nfs actually proves my point: unless there is an obvious functionality benefit, don't break people's habits --- keep the default as it was. Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
