On Sat, 4 Jan 2014 13:45:34 -0700 Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Restricting the context to just Fedora, by default it is a desktop OS > with a GUI. That's the default install from live desktop, DVD ISO, > and netinst media. That is the primary Fedora deliverable and > experience. By that logic, you could argue that Fedora should not have sshd installed by default. A typical desktop OS with a GUI is typically never being accessed remotely, for the vast 99% majority of cases. And yet somehow I doubt that anyone will dare to remove sshd from the default install. But since we are bashing around about unnecessary default services, one set of services that I would actually like to see removed is the NFS stack (nfs, nfslock, portmap, ...). Arguably, a typical desktop OS with a GUI has absolutely no need of networked file systems, especially as obsolete as NFS. I've used Fedora for as long as it exists, and I've never seen anyone actually use NFS in real life scenarios on a typical desktop machine with a GUI. That's also got to be in the 99% of cases... Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org