Re: Best variant of Fedora for a Virtual Machine...?

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On Tuesday, 14. August 2012. 14.22.52 Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 08/14/2012 02:03 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > I hope that you are aware that "icons on a desktop" is considered to be a
> > Bad Idea (tm) that comes from the Windows world and eventually clutters
> > an otherwise useful desktop space.
> 
> I beg to differ.  Icons on a desktop make it quick and easy to launch
> programs that you use constantly.

:-)

I'd say that launchers are the most quick and easy way to launch programs. Of 
course, that is a matter of usecase. I tend to put every app in fullscreen or 
maximize its window, covering the whole desktop. In such circumstances, having 
a button on the panel is much more effective than minimizing all apps in order 
to reach the icon on the desktop. But that's beside the point...

> What's a Bad Idea from the Windows
> world is having every program you install insist on putting another icon
> on your desktop, generally speaking without asking.

Precisely.

> Clearly, you don't particularly like icons.  That's fine; you don't have
> to use them if you don't want to.  However, it's not up to you (or
> anybody else) to tell us we shouldn't use them simply because you don't
> like them.  That kind of One True Way thinking is not only one of the
> things that made many of us investigate Linux in the first place, it's
> one of the things that drove me (and probably others) away from Gnome3.

Oh, sorry, I didn't mean it to be understood as the One True Way. The thing 
is, I was too fast to write the quoted statement above, and wasn't very 
precise. So let me rephrase:

I hope that you are aware that "icons on a desktop" is considered to be a
Bad Idea (tm) --- within most of the KDE community --- that comes from the 
Windows world and eventually clutters an otherwise useful desktop space.

We were talking in the context of KDE, so I wasn't precise enough... :-)
 
> Sorry to rant, but stating personal opinions as though they were
> indisputable facts tends to push one of my buttons.

Sorry for pushing one of your buttons, Joe. :-)

Btw, this opinion is not just my personal one, it is in fact a generally 
accepted one in the KDE devs community. The KDE4 desktop was designed with 
this opinion in mind, and the folder-view-across-desktop thing was added in as 
a (non-default) option only after some pressure from the users who insisted on 
having icons on the desktop. (Also, KDE4 devs were a bit friendlier to such 
users than the Gnome3 devs...). So it actually is a prevailing opinion in the 
KDE world.

Best, :-)
Marko


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