On Tuesday, 14. August 2012. 14.22.52 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 08/14/2012 02:03 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I hope that you are aware that "icons on a desktop" is considered to be a > > Bad Idea (tm) that comes from the Windows world and eventually clutters > > an otherwise useful desktop space. > > I beg to differ. Icons on a desktop make it quick and easy to launch > programs that you use constantly. :-) I'd say that launchers are the most quick and easy way to launch programs. Of course, that is a matter of usecase. I tend to put every app in fullscreen or maximize its window, covering the whole desktop. In such circumstances, having a button on the panel is much more effective than minimizing all apps in order to reach the icon on the desktop. But that's beside the point... > What's a Bad Idea from the Windows > world is having every program you install insist on putting another icon > on your desktop, generally speaking without asking. Precisely. > Clearly, you don't particularly like icons. That's fine; you don't have > to use them if you don't want to. However, it's not up to you (or > anybody else) to tell us we shouldn't use them simply because you don't > like them. That kind of One True Way thinking is not only one of the > things that made many of us investigate Linux in the first place, it's > one of the things that drove me (and probably others) away from Gnome3. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean it to be understood as the One True Way. The thing is, I was too fast to write the quoted statement above, and wasn't very precise. So let me rephrase: I hope that you are aware that "icons on a desktop" is considered to be a Bad Idea (tm) --- within most of the KDE community --- that comes from the Windows world and eventually clutters an otherwise useful desktop space. We were talking in the context of KDE, so I wasn't precise enough... :-) > Sorry to rant, but stating personal opinions as though they were > indisputable facts tends to push one of my buttons. Sorry for pushing one of your buttons, Joe. :-) Btw, this opinion is not just my personal one, it is in fact a generally accepted one in the KDE devs community. The KDE4 desktop was designed with this opinion in mind, and the folder-view-across-desktop thing was added in as a (non-default) option only after some pressure from the users who insisted on having icons on the desktop. (Also, KDE4 devs were a bit friendlier to such users than the Gnome3 devs...). So it actually is a prevailing opinion in the KDE world. Best, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org