Reindl Harald wrote: > most machines where systemctl is relevant do not evem have any DE > so what..... Presumably you are talking about Fedora, since you are contributing to a Fedora newsgroup. I would have thought an overwhelming majority of Fedora users are running services, and also have a DE. > the guy whining about openvpn does simply not recognize > that this is a SPECIAL CASE because it makes sense to > have it active as client in one network while another > instance providing openvpn as service on the same machine First of all, I imagine there are very few people running an openvpn server and an openvpn client on the same Fedora machine. Secondly, there are many services where one could in theory be running two instances on the same machine. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org