On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 00:28 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 09/23/2011 06:22 PM, Craig White wrote: > > Seems as though it's awful easy to whine but none of the whiners > > actually want to do any of the work. > > > > You know, I get awful tired of people saying that and ignoring the fact > that most people aren't computer programmers and those who are generally > don't have the time or the specific expertise needed to create a new > fork of Gnome. > > But what I get even more tired of is people who can't be bothered to > trim their replies so that the rest of us don't have to scroll past all > of your bickering over and over to get to your newest nugget of wisdom. > Either take it off-list or get rid of all of the old material that > we've all seen before. ---- I resent that you chose my reply to call out 'untrimmed' replies because it carries the false implication that I didn't trim. I did and it should be totally obvious that I did if you check. I won't say that I always do but I think that I almost always trim and reply in line to appropriate things. Whether people are programmers or not is decidedly not the point here. The GNOME developers have made a decision to revamp the UI to account for the fact that computers are extending beyond the model borne out of Xerox PARC... a keyboard, screen and mouse. They are attempting to satisfy display scenarios that might be as small as a telephone to very large and often multiple large displays. They are attempting to satisfy the fact that keyboards and mice might be eschewed in favor of touch input and gestures. They are attempting to satisfy the notion that usage embraces work flow and workspace(s) and not just application launching. You can't go to the Ford dealer and buy a brand new 1957 Thunderbird but essentially that is what is being asked of here... an eternal version of GNOME that was envisioned and started 10 years ago. I can appreciate that long time computer users who only use a keyboard, mouse and screen and little adaptability to how they interact with grander concepts of work flow and workspace might want to drive the 1957 Thunderbird forever and if there is a sufficient number of modestly skilled users, they can keep repairing the Thunderbird forever. I wish them luck. Then again, even the most casual reading of the intent of Fedora makes it clear that it embraces the latest technology advances and those who just want things to remain as they are should probably not be using Fedora but something like RHEL or CentOS which provide long term non-change by intent. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
