On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 15:04 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > I understand you do not like GNOME 3, talking about LXDE is great. But > just bashing.. I don't think that is what this mailing list is for. Well, when those responsible for the debacle thumb their nose at the users, all that's left is for users to badmouth them. The old adage, "there's no such thing as bad publicity," isn't really true. A strong movement against Gnome on the users list /may/ move Fedora away from using it by default. Distributions moving away from it /may/ have an effect on its developers. The prevailing theme has been "I actually wanted Gnome 2, either give me it or something like it." That must say something for what users actually wanted. I've only seen one or two postings saying they liked Gnome 3 better. I know praise isn't often seen, but I'd expect more comments than that, if people liked Gnome 3, considering the huge change that it is from Gnome 2. In the past, I'd tried various other desktops, but found that Gnome 2 was just about right for me. Others (e.g. KDE) were overblown (even KDE before the big change). And others were way too primitive: I don't want to jump through hoops to get sound. When I insert media it should be mounted for me, I've done the only part that I want to personally deal with, by inserting the media; and I want the eject button to unmount it cleanly; I don't want to be messing with mount/unmount tools. Likewise I want easy networking, and other things to be easy. On a GUI system I shouldn't have to resort to the command line, at all. A CLI user will tell you the same thing, but in reverse (they shouldn't have to resort to using any GUI tools). Organised menus are a good thing, and a permanent task bar where I can access them is too. Having to clear windows out of desk space so I can click on the desktop to get a menu is not. Even worse when it emulates the worst ever menu system devised - the vertical, and upside down, Windows start menu. And then there's: Many of the applications I want to use are Gnome applications. So using another desktop doesn't avoid the heavy baggage involved with running a Gnome app, or a KDE app, or any other overblown desktop. It really is a pain when mammoth changes are made to a system. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines