On 09/17/2011 01:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote: >> I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there >> are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an upper >> hand in due time - the sooner the better). > That seems uncalled for. Trying to build a new desktop is a large, non > trivial project. It doesn't take incompetence to get it badly wrong in > places, it's an inevitable part of any big change. The real test will be > how well it gets sorted and tidied up. > > Most of the Gnome 3 developers have done a heck of a lot more work than > almost all of the peanut gallery. > > Alan Has anyone taken a poll from the Fedora Community as to what new directions Gnome-X should be taking BEFORE making such a paradigm shift? Were this a commercial product, you will hearing from your customers who otherwise will drop the product (gnome-3, that is) and seek solace elsewhere. IMO, the peanut-gallery started with Gnome-3, not Gnome-2. I have installed and played with Gnome-3, and my first impressions was: unholy shite! Where in the ruckus has everything gone! Also, my (not that old) desktop ran fine with Gnome-2, but fell into 'fallback-mode' and went from turtle to slug. This left a very bad taste in my mouth and I will not use Gnome-3 as it is. I truly understand Linux Torvald's impressions... what a (bleep!) "unholy mess"! (paraphrased) I imagine the grief of those who invested into Linux (having ripped out Winbows due to costs) with Gnome-2 installed by default, having to explain to their superiors why they need to update and retrain their people the way of the mobile UI. It seems to me, a LOT of work went into Gnome-3, with the expectation that the Linux community will have to have it ramroded into their throats, mercilessly water boarded without resistance, and their screams silenced... Didn't expect that, did you? -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines