On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 15:12 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > On 09/17/2011 01:28 PM, Alan Cox wrote: > >> I personally think that you GNOME 3 devs are incompetent (I know that there > >> are some who are not happy about the state of it and perhaps will get an upper > >> hand in due time - the sooner the better). > > That seems uncalled for. Trying to build a new desktop is a large, non > > trivial project. It doesn't take incompetence to get it badly wrong in > > places, it's an inevitable part of any big change. The real test will be > > how well it gets sorted and tidied up. > > > > Most of the Gnome 3 developers have done a heck of a lot more work than > > almost all of the peanut gallery. > > > > Alan > Has anyone taken a poll from the Fedora Community > as to what new directions Gnome-X should be taking > BEFORE making such a paradigm shift? Were this a > commercial product, you will hearing from your customers > who otherwise will drop the product (gnome-3, that is) and > seek solace elsewhere. IMO, the peanut-gallery started with > Gnome-3, not Gnome-2. > > I have installed and played with Gnome-3, and my > first impressions was: unholy shite! Where in the ruckus > has everything gone! Also, my (not that old) desktop > ran fine with Gnome-2, but fell into 'fallback-mode' and > went from turtle to slug. This left a very bad taste in my > mouth and I will not use Gnome-3 as it is. I truly understand > Linux Torvald's impressions... what a (bleep!) "unholy mess"! > (paraphrased) > > I imagine the grief of those who invested into Linux (having > ripped out Winbows due to costs) with Gnome-2 installed > by default, having to explain to their superiors why they > need to update and retrain their people the way of the > mobile UI. > > It seems to me, a LOT of work went into Gnome-3, > with the expectation that the Linux community will have > to have it ramroded into their throats, mercilessly water > boarded without resistance, and their screams silenced... > Didn't expect that, did you? ---- First of all - a taking a poll is fine but it has little to do with a project like GNOME since it is the developers of GNOME who get to decide what it does and how it does it. After all, it is their time and energy. If they are being paid for their time & energy, then whoever is paying them probably gets a say in the matter too. People who are getting worked up about the current state of GNOME 3 are just being stupid... they have other DM's to choose from. If it turns out that GNOME no longer suits the majority, I'm quite sure that Fedora will stop using it as their default DM. A few/lot of vociferous people do not constitute a majority of users though - only an indicator that this is a situation that should be monitored. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
