On Friday 16 December 2005 08:59, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > On Fri, 2005-12-16 at 02:48 -0800, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > > > > +100 > > > > Letting KDE enthusiastics package it the way they think it should be done > > in Extras instead of having them whining about "RH shipping broken KDE" > > is probably going to gain more friends than you lose by dropping it out > > of Core. > > It's just something that needs to be handled pretty carefully. Don't > want to see the story "Red Hat drops support for KDE" (we haven't really > supported it for a long time anyway) but more "enables community around > KDE" because that's the real goal. Also don't want to see the confusion > of Fedora/Red Hat here. It's likely that we will include KDE for a long > time in our Red Hat releases even though it comes from Extras. As a long time KDE/Red Hat/Fedora user i would love to have the opportunity to look after and improve upon some of the kde stuff i use day in day out. im pretty sure that Rex Dieter would also like to help. Along these line i really think core should be core things needed on every machine and the build chain. i.e. kernel, iptables, glibc, gcc, ntp, binutils, etc everything else should then be moved to extras where it can benefit from greater community support. I know that to do this would require alot of work and effort to setup and co-ordinate, but i think the community as a whole will benefit greatly from this. It would probably invole having to set new guidelines for extras package updates during a release lifecycle. Dennis