Am Freitag, den 16.12.2005, 02:48 -0800 schrieb Panu Matilainen: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Christopher Blizzard wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 21:27 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > >> Until there is a clear signal that the definition of Core has changed > >> direction I'm not going to be working under the single CD goal > >> assumption. Someone is going to have the balls to move KDE and some > >> of that java crap over to Extras if you have a chance in hell of going > >> to one CD. I'll pay more attention to this argument as a serious > >> statement of policy direction once I see KDE move over. > > > > I'll fall on my sword and say that I think that moving KDE out to extras > > is a good idea - but probably not for the reason you expect. Since it's > > clear that Red Hat is not going to be supporting KDE (we're just not > > going to put up the resources) let's stop holding it hostage and invite > > the KDE community who cares about it to develop and support it as part > > of Extras. We can give them a lot of freedom to make it look nice and > > work the way that they think it should. (Kedora?) I liked the "Fedora KDE Desktop" that someone suggest on this list some days ago a lot more ;-) > +100 > > Letting KDE enthusiastics package it the way they think it should be done > in Extras instead of having them whining about "RH shipping broken KDE" > is probably going to gain more friends Up to here I fully agree. But I disagree with this... > than you lose by dropping it out of > Core. ...if we do it *now*. There will be a lot of bad press about Fedora then. I'd like to avoid that. And avoiding that is quite easy afaics if we just wait another 6 or 12 month until anaconda can access fedora-extras via internet or from extras-iso-files that were burned on CD. Installing KDE should then be as smooth as it is now and nobody can complain that KDE is in "Fedora Extras -- the second class citizen" (they still will, but that's life). CU thl