On 12/15/05, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Things have to change. The question is do we do it now or later? Sure do "it" now... the problem is "it" isnt pulling crap out of Core. "it" is changing the Extras policy and development model to make maintaining Core+Extras release targets attractive and manageable for volunteers to do. Pulling functionality from Core now, before the inftrastructure and policy that allows Core+Extras release targets to be made is putting the cart before the horse. If you start pulling functionality out of Core now, to encourage people to maintain Core+Extras release targets all you are going to do is frustrate your potential volunteer release maintainers because they will be fighting against the infrastructure. You want Core+Extras release targets to be a successful experiment then I suggest you lock yourself in a room with the other Core release team members for a day and write down exactly what is needed to make sure a release target is managable as paid professionals, then ask what support would be needed if they were volunteering spare time to maintain a release target. At a minimum "freeze" points in the tree(s) from which a release is built from has to be there. Extras NEEDS "freeze" points or you are asking volunteers to do the impossible. Define what Core is suppose to be Define what Extras is suppose to be Define what the Core+Extras relationshiop is suppose to be Build policies and infrastructure to support that relationship. THEN start moving things around in the framework of that relatonship. -jef
