Following Tim's explanations of various things, here are revised answers to the questions: On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 6:32 PM Tim Flink <tflink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Questions > ========= > > 1. Are pre-trained weights considered to be normal non-code content/data or do they require special handling? For Fedora license classification purposes, they should be considered "content". However, I think for any specific pre-trained weights that will actually be included in Fedora packages, for some initial period I'd like to do some further review (as noted upthread, because this is an important policy area and we don't have a lot of prior experience in it). I don't really care how that's done, that could be through this list or a Bugzilla or whatever. We'll add "pre-trained weights" to the list of examples of what "content" is in the Fedora legal docs. > 2. If an upstream offers pre-trained weights and indicates that those weights are available under a license which is acceptable for non-code content in Fedora, can those pre-trained weights be included in Fedora packages? Yes subject to my answer to 1. > 3. Extending question 2, is it considered sufficient for an upstream to have a license on pre-trained weights or would a packager/reviewer need to verify that the data used to train those weights is acceptable? A packager/reviewer should not need to do that verification, which seems highly impractical (which is a point I think you may have previously made). However, that could be an aspect of the "initial legal review" I'm suggesting we may want to have for such cases. > 4. Is it acceptable to package code which downloads pre-trained weights from a non-Fedora source upon first use post-installation by a user if that model and its associated weights are > a. For a specific model? > b. For a user-defined model which may or may not exist at the time of packaging? Given your explanations of these cases, I think this is pretty straightforward. 4a: Yes 4b: Yes These answers only go to matters of Fedora legal/licensing policy. If there are technical issues raised by these questions (for example, if there ought to be some standards around packaging of upstream pre-trained weights) I can't give guidance or informed opinions on that beyond my initial suggestion to raise this topic with FESCo which seems to have been unsuccessful. Richard -- _______________________________________________ legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
