On 07/02/2018 10:40 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > I was wondering about quvi/libquvi-scripts and youtube-dl. > > The URLs in libquvi-scripts are hard-coded, and the test suite attempts > to connect to youtube.com (for example). The Totem integration does not > prompt for a URL, either. All this suggests to me that the expectation > is that the software can only be used to access those video sites, and > not testing your own video streaming service. Keeping in mind that IANAL, and this is not legal advice, looking at the ruling of the Ninth Circuit in Oracle v Rimini (Filed Jan 8, 2018), the panel held that: "... taking data from a website, using a method prohibited by the applicable terms of use, when the taking itself generally is permitted, does not violate the CDAFA or the NCCL." (CDAFA is the California Comprehensive Data Access and Fraud Act, NCCL is the Nevada Computer Crimes Law.) The Ninth Circuit also ruled back in 2012 (USA v David Nosal) that merely violating a website's terms of use is not a crime under the Federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA), 18 U.S.C. § 1030. In the specific case of these tools, they are accessing the publicly available youtube website. If these tools were hacking into the youtube website and pulling out content that was not being made publicly available, that would potentially be a different story, but this is not the case. Google would be fully within their rights to block these tools from accessing youtube.com, but there is no clear legal reason preventing Fedora from distributing them. ~tom _______________________________________________ legal mailing list -- legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to legal-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/MBRY6FJPK723QET7A2PGNMGSDL5WC6H7/