Re: Software whose only purpose is to breach web site terms of service

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Greetings,

----- Original Message -----
> On 07/02/2018 04:29 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:35:57AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> Is it appropriate for Fedora to ship software whose only purpose is to
> >> violate terms of service of web sites, such as restrictions like
> >> this?
> >>
> >> “You agree not to access Content through any technology or means
> >> other than the video playback pages of the Service itself, the Embeddable
> >> Player, or other explicitly authorized means […] may designate.”
> >>
> >> The software is specifically designed to circumvent restrictions
> >> the web site operator has put in place to prevent offline viewing of
> >> content.
> > 
> > You didn't indicate which software you refer to.
> > 
> > Spot can advise more here, certainly.  My recollection is Fedora
> > hasn't generally assessed software based on how people use it, with
> > very specific exceptions.  Any software that can be used to subvert
> > ToS could also be used by the site operator to test
> > countermeasures, so this seems to me an unwise place to draw a line.
> 
> I was wondering about quvi/libquvi-scripts and youtube-dl.
> 
> The URLs in libquvi-scripts are hard-coded, and the test suite
> attempts to connect to youtube.com (for example).  The Totem integration does
> not prompt for a URL, either.  All this suggests to me that the
> expectation is that the software can only be used to access those video sites,
> and not testing your own video streaming service.
> 
> Thanks,
> Florian

I don't know what quvi is but youtube-dl handles dozens and dozens of sites... among which I'm guessing there are some that allow users to download their content... but I haven't verified that.  It is kinda like some of the hardware emulators... they can be used to run stolen ROMs as well as legit.

TYL,
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