Re: Proposal for the future - (was: KDE SIG QA help needed)

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On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 12:44 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jan Grulich wrote:
> 
> > On pátek 7. července 2017 14:29:07 CEST Steven Haigh wrote:
> > > Proposal #2:
> > > We currently ship 2 'package managers' (3 if you count PackageKit).
> > > 
> > > I propose we drop kde-discover - and keep dnfdragora (and PackageKit) in
> > > the live image.
> > 
> > I wouldn't drop kde-discover (plasma-discover). It's a good equivalent to
> > gnome-software, with many backends (PackageKit, Snap, Flatpak) and also
> > with integration of ODRS (Open Desktop Rating System). It might not be
> > sometimes working as it should, but it is getting better with every
> > release.
> 
> I think Dnfdragora is much closer to the user experience we want to deliver 
> to our users:
> 
> Dnfdragora shows all packages in the repository, not just those that are 
> picked up by the Fedora AppStream data generator, which by design filters 
> out everything it does not like. It does not show non-packages such as 
> Flatpaks that have no business being offered in a package manager, 
> especially without a warning that what you are about to install is not a 
> package.
> 
> Dnfdragora also shows the dependencies that are going to be installed. With 
> Discover, you have no warning whatsoever that you are going to install some 
> GNOME application and tons of GNOME libraries. Dnfdragora can show you (with 
> one click) the complete list of dependencies (so you can easily identify the 
> toolkit that the application uses even if you have it installed already), 
> and it always asks you before installing new dependencies that you don't 
> have installed yet.
> 
> Dnfdragora also interoperates better with the tool recommended to command-
> line users (dnf). Hardly any command-line user uses pkcon, and I don't think 
> any command-line user uses AppStream tools.
> 
> While Dnfdragora is not a KDE application, it uses QtWidgets through libyui 
> and thus does not look less native than Discover's Kirigami UI.

I had a quick look at dnfdragora since I hadn't heard of it before Rex
mentioned it (I normally just run dnf from the command line). Two
things struck me:

* No way to see what packages depend on the one you're looking at.
* No way to resize panes to see more descriptive text and less of the
package list.

As I say, this was just a quick look so I may have missed something.

poc
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