On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 12:44 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jan Grulich wrote: > > > On pátek 7. července 2017 14:29:07 CEST Steven Haigh wrote: > > > Proposal #2: > > > We currently ship 2 'package managers' (3 if you count PackageKit). > > > > > > I propose we drop kde-discover - and keep dnfdragora (and PackageKit) in > > > the live image. > > > > I wouldn't drop kde-discover (plasma-discover). It's a good equivalent to > > gnome-software, with many backends (PackageKit, Snap, Flatpak) and also > > with integration of ODRS (Open Desktop Rating System). It might not be > > sometimes working as it should, but it is getting better with every > > release. > > I think Dnfdragora is much closer to the user experience we want to deliver > to our users: > > Dnfdragora shows all packages in the repository, not just those that are > picked up by the Fedora AppStream data generator, which by design filters > out everything it does not like. It does not show non-packages such as > Flatpaks that have no business being offered in a package manager, > especially without a warning that what you are about to install is not a > package. > > Dnfdragora also shows the dependencies that are going to be installed. With > Discover, you have no warning whatsoever that you are going to install some > GNOME application and tons of GNOME libraries. Dnfdragora can show you (with > one click) the complete list of dependencies (so you can easily identify the > toolkit that the application uses even if you have it installed already), > and it always asks you before installing new dependencies that you don't > have installed yet. > > Dnfdragora also interoperates better with the tool recommended to command- > line users (dnf). Hardly any command-line user uses pkcon, and I don't think > any command-line user uses AppStream tools. > > While Dnfdragora is not a KDE application, it uses QtWidgets through libyui > and thus does not look less native than Discover's Kirigami UI. I had a quick look at dnfdragora since I hadn't heard of it before Rex mentioned it (I normally just run dnf from the command line). Two things struck me: * No way to see what packages depend on the one you're looking at. * No way to resize panes to see more descriptive text and less of the package list. As I say, this was just a quick look so I may have missed something. poc _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx