>> Since this morning, after loging in on a Plasma KDE session, I can >> first see the desktop then only a black screen with only the mouse >> available, nothing else. > > Workaround (did it many times when plasmashell crashed in the past): > * You can use Alt+F2 to open krunner dialog (normally tiny at the top). > * Than type "plasmashell" + Enter and it should run. > * Even if it crash again, you should be able to use the same method > for running konsole and have further debugging lead. Oh, that's great! It works, yes, very well. If I launch plasmashell in konsole, below is what I get. Could that give a clue to what happens? Many thanks, Frédéric $ plasmashell kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") org.kde.kcoreaddons: Expected JSON property "X-Plasma-ContainmentCategories" to be a string list. Treating it as a list with a single entry: "panel" org.kde.plasma.desktop.appmenubar org.kde.kcoreaddons: Expected JSON property "X-Plasma-ContainmentCategories" to be a string list. Treating it as a list with a single entry: "panel" org.kde.plasma.desktop.emptyPanel org.kde.kcoreaddons: Expected JSON property "X-Plasma-ContainmentCategories" to be a string list. Treating it as a list with a single entry: "panel" org.kde.plasma.desktop.defaultPanel kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") No metadata file in the package, expected it at: "/home/fred/Images/" No metadata file in the package, expected it at: "/home/fred/Images/" No metadata file in the package, expected it at: "/home/fred/Images/" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.desktopcontainment/contents/ui/FolderItemDelegate.qml:252:21: QML Text: Binding loop detected for property "width" file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.systemloadviewer/contents/ui/BarMonitor.qml:47: TypeError: Cannot read property 'length' of undefined file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.systemloadviewer/contents/ui/BarMonitor.qml:49:20: Unable to assign [undefined] to QColor Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) Trying to use rootObject before initialization is completed, whilst using setInitializationDelayed. Forcing completion Both point size and pixel size set. Using pixel size. Both point size and pixel size set. Using pixel size. Both point size and pixel size set. Using pixel size. file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:353: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:352: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:351: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.systemloadviewer/contents/ui/BarMonitor.qml:49:20: Unable to assign [undefined] to QColor kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") kf5.kcoreaddons.desktopparser: Could not locate service type file kservicetypes5/plasma-popupapplet.desktop, tried ("/home/fred/.local/share", "/usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share", "/usr/local/share", "/usr/share") Trying to use rootObject before initialization is completed, whilst using setInitializationDelayed. Forcing completion file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:351: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:352: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:353: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:353: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:352: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:351: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:351: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:352: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:353: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:350: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:351: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:352: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/ScrollView.qml:353: TypeError: Cannot read property 'padding' of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null file:///usr/lib64/qt5/qml/QtQuick/Controls/Button.qml:99: TypeError: Cannot read property of null KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/plasmashell from kdeinit sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0 KCrash: Application 'plasmashell' crashing... KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/run/user/1000/kdeinit5__0 QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 8 and type 'Read', disabling... QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 17 and type 'Read', disabling... _______________________________________________ kde mailing list -- kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to kde-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx