On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 02:47 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 13:34 +0100, Richard Z wrote: > >> do we really need any of it for fedup? I would think people use fedup to > >> upgrade, not to switch to a different product. > > > > If that were true, we wouldn't need any options and fedup would just > > upgrade whatever the user already had. > > That's the point. > > Those options were added to FedUp (and forced to be used by just refusing to > proceed by default instead of simply defaulting to --product=nonproduct) > with almost no evidence of user demand. (When I asked, they had to admit not > having any real data, they only "asked around" in a group composed mostly of > GNOME developers to find that upgrading to a Product was the "expected" > behavior.) Interesting. I wasn't aware of the background. > >> Why would a gnome user want to type "fedup --product=workstation" instead > >> of "fedup --product=nonproduct" - other than because of the misleading > >> commandline options? > > > > Sorry, can't parse what you're getting at here. > > He's saying that the expected behavior of FedUp is clearly > --product=nonproduct and thus that should be the default or only option > instead of being required to be explicitly passed (and I agree with that). That makes sense in most cases (i.e. as a default). I do think it useful to have the option of changing at upgrade time though. > > Part of my objection is simply to the term "product", which I think is > > unfortunate. I was pushing "model" as slightly better. > > "Product" is being replaced anyway because Red Hat Marketing doesn't like it > (because Fedora is not a commercially supported product of Red Hat), the > Council is looking for alternatives, with "Flavor" being the current working > term. So you can propose the "Model" term to the Fedora Council. My problem with "flavor" is that it's misspelled :-) poc _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
