Re: Does Fedora want to expel KDE from its offerings?

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On Sun, 2014-12-14 at 13:34 +0100, Richard Z wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:06:05PM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2014-12-13 at 19:38 -0600, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> > > On 12/13/2014 10:32 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > Naming things is famously hard; I agree — we could to better here. Any
> > > > suggestions? I would also like to find better way to distinguish the
> > > > spins like KDE desktop, where there is full QA and a number of
> > > > dedicated people, from those which get minimal effort and often have
> > > > serious problems that no one fixes.
> > > 
> > > Fedora Workstation with GNOME
> > > Fedora Server
> > > Fedora Cloud
> > > 
> > > alternate workstation versions (supported):
> > > Fedora Workstation with KDE Plasma
> > > Fedora Workstation with Some Other DE
> > > 
> > > alternate workstation versions (unsupported):
> > > Fedora Workstation with Some Wonky DE
> > > Fedora Workstation with Some Other Wonky DE
> > > 
> > > 1) important to note that the default workstation includes GNOME
> > > 2) hoping "supported" doesn't imply too much
> > > 
> > 
> > I could live with that as a description. However part of the question at
> > issue is what invocations of fedup should exist to get the result the
> > user wants, so a more compact form is needed. That's why I proposed a
> > way of doing that earlier in the thread.
> 
> do we really need any of it for fedup? I would think people use fedup to
> upgrade, not to switch to a different product.

If that were true, we wouldn't need any options and fedup would just
upgrade whatever the user already had.

> Why would a gnome user want to type "fedup --product=workstation" instead
> of "fedup --product=nonproduct" - other than because of the misleading 
> commandline options?

Sorry, can't parse what you're getting at here.

> Similar for KDE users if there would be product=KDE ?

Part of my objection is simply to the term "product", which I think is
unfortunate. I was pushing "model" as slightly better.

poc

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