On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Patrick Boutilier <boutilpj at ednet.ns.ca> wrote: > On 02/25/2010 05:13 PM, Thomas Janssen wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Linuxguy123<linuxguy123 at gmail.com> ?wrote: >>> On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 20:09 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The 64bit flash without nspluginwrapper is more resource friendly here. >>>>>> >>>>>>> video is nvidia proprietary (rpmfusion). >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, that's a problem. >>>>> >>>>> We've seen various people on this list blame the proprietary nvidia >>>>> driver for various problems before and it hasn't turned out to be the >>>>> issue. ?What proof do you have ? >>>> >>>> And we had enough flame posts about it on the different fedora-* lists >>>> ? Not going to have another one. >>>> I think you know the problems of a closed source driver. If not, it is >>>> not supported by us. >>> >>> Could you please smear the closed source driver a bit more ? ?Just >>> because its closed source doesn't mean its bad. >>> >>> So what if its not supported by "us". ?Maybe the problem isn't in the >>> closed source driver. ?Maybe its in a, gulp, ?Fedora component ! ?Have >>> you even looked ? >> >> What's the real problem? You think you have to fight something >> personal with me? Then simply tell me what. >> >> Closed source drivers aren't supported by us == Fedora. It counts for >> any closed source software. >> If you think that isn't right, go on and change it. >> > > I think what he is saying is that not every bug found by a user running > the Nvidia proprietary driver is necessarily an Nvidia bug. Neither do/did i. I just said "Well, that's a problem.". The problem starts with, the user cant file a bug report, because it gets most likely (if not for sure) closed due to the fact he runs the closed source driver. I know that as a Bugzapper. We even have a button to close such bugreports. I did run long enough the propietary fglrx driver. So i know it's a problem to run closed source drivers. Thank god this is over since F-12 and the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental. And it will be over for nvidia users as well, beginning with F-13. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium