On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 18:24 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Clive Messer wrote: > > All of these things in the overall scheme of things are minor, > > but I expect them to just work, whatever desktop environment I use. > > The 4.2.0 update isn't stable yet for a reason. Heck, it isn't even in the > official updates-testing yet. Making everything work takes time. Fair enough, it takes time to make things work. But it's nearly a year now since KDE 4.0 was released? ;-) Also, I was under the impression that KDE 4.2 was released yesterday, that the kde-redhat rpms are built using that code base and that KDE 4.2 is a 'stable' release? (Although quite what constitutes a stable upstream KDE release is lost on me these days.) Unless the 'bugs' are caused by the way the release is being packaged for Fedora, I'm not really sure I understand your, "making it work takes time", comment. > We're indeed working on the Bluetooth issue which is a 4.2 regression. The work is appreciated. Keep at it. Hopefully by a 4.3 release the desktop will be feature complete and "just working". > For the other stuff, was that already broken in 4.1? Our biggest priority is > for our 4.2.0 update not to break things which worked. But of course having > stuff still unfixed also sucks. With any degree of certainty, I cannot say. I'll try again when KDE 4.2 is in Fedora stable and bz any remaining problems. Regards Clive -- Clive Messer <clive at vacuumtube.org.uk>