On 07/01/2011 03:47 PM, Iain Arnell wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Petr Pisar<ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 06:08:49PM +0200, Iain Arnell wrote: >>> >>> Interesting though this is, why are we trying to bootstrap the entire >>> rebuild? Perl 5.14 is sufficiently compatible with 5.12 that we can >>> continue to provide perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.*) in perl-5.14.1 rpm >>> until the rebuild is (nearly) complete and only need to worry about >>> bootstrapping the arch-specific stuff (a much smaller problem set with >>> no circular deps that affected my rebuild in mock). Once all the >>> arch-specific stuff is rebuilt, all of the noarch packages should just >>> work (except those with real failures due to new features - mostly >>> regex stringification messing up tests). >>> >> The noarch compatibility between 5.12 and 5.14 is almost perfect, but this >> could not be true in future upgrades. Being able to bootstrap perl fully >> automatically is great benefit. E.g we plan converting fractional versions to >> version object strings (due to compatibility with RPM), so bootstrap build is >> wanted prerequisite. (Not mentioning moving packages between distributions or >> testing other crazy ideas like parallel installation of different Perl >> versions). I remember 5.12 rebuild and it was horror because of mixing old and >> new builds. If new Perl is going to be released each year, we need to have >> automated solution that can deal with all (ok. almost all) potential problems >> the Perl rebase can bring. > > Sure, full bootstrap rebuild would be nice to have. But wouldn't it be > better to work out the details locally using mock first? > > We're now approaching the fourth week of this mass rebuild and still > have at least 700 packages to go.... The branch/feature freeze is > already less than one month away. > > Yes, we are aware of it. Hopefully it shouldn't take so much time now. We can always build it last week before alpha in old stupid way. -- Marcela Mašláňová BaseOS team Brno -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
