On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Adam Miller <maxamillion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'm pretty neutral on B or C. I don't really care and also don't think it > should even remotely be a concern of ours. Not only do we not have > testing for it but we don't even have the building blocks in place to > work towards testing it. VirtualBox is bad and those who use it should > feel bad.[0] I'm curious what you think others should feel when they use VMware ESXi or Fusion, or Microsoft Hyper-V, in particular as it compares to the feeling they should have when using VirtualBox? On Windows and OS X, there is no qemu+kvm+libvirt. So I see VirtualBox as the least bad option on those platforms. When I'm using Fedora I use vmm/virsh because, well yeah VirtualBox is like the booger I can't flick off on OS X, meanwhile on Fedora there's something better. > This is probably not a popular opinion and I'm fine with that, but we > would have to install something that we very publicly speak out > against in order to test this. I'm not yet ready to throw out Fedora's > values for the sake of some OS X user's convenience but that's just > me. OK well considering the UX of Linux on Macs is highly variable between totally utterly frustrating shit, and semi-tolerable except for exhibits A, B, C, and D all of which suck. The incentive, therefore, is to just run proprietary OS X on proprietary hardware and VirtualBox instead of yet more proprietary crap in order to semi-sanely run something that's not crap or proprietary without having to buy additional hardware and all the costs that ensue. *shrug* It's sorta like playing cards and telling someone they should feel bad about the hand they've been dealt. Their choice was really limited to showing up at a particular game in a particular location, not the details of the hand they're dealt. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct