On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Adam Miller > <maxamillion@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> I'm pretty neutral on B or C. I don't really care and also don't think it >> should even remotely be a concern of ours. Not only do we not have >> testing for it but we don't even have the building blocks in place to >> work towards testing it. VirtualBox is bad and those who use it should >> feel bad.[0] > > I'm curious what you think others should feel when they use VMware > ESXi or Fusion, or Microsoft Hyper-V, in particular as it compares to > the feeling they should have when using VirtualBox? > > On Windows and OS X, there is no qemu+kvm+libvirt. So I see VirtualBox > as the least bad option on those platforms. When I'm using Fedora I > use vmm/virsh because, well yeah VirtualBox is like the booger I can't > flick off on OS X, meanwhile on Fedora there's something better. Nothing, it was a rude comment that I shouldn't have made. > > >> This is probably not a popular opinion and I'm fine with that, but we >> would have to install something that we very publicly speak out >> against in order to test this. I'm not yet ready to throw out Fedora's >> values for the sake of some OS X user's convenience but that's just >> me. > > OK well considering the UX of Linux on Macs is highly variable between > totally utterly frustrating shit, and semi-tolerable except for > exhibits A, B, C, and D all of which suck. The incentive, therefore, > is to just run proprietary OS X on proprietary hardware and VirtualBox > instead of yet more proprietary crap in order to semi-sanely run > something that's not crap or proprietary without having to buy > additional hardware and all the costs that ensue. > > *shrug* > > It's sorta like playing cards and telling someone they should feel bad > about the hand they've been dealt. Their choice was really limited to > showing up at a particular game in a particular location, not the > details of the hand they're dealt. > > I don't think that's remotely the same thing but I'm fine agreeing to disagree. I'm just going to step away from this thread, y'all decide on what you want and/or what you think users want. -AdamM > > -- > Chris Murphy > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct