Re: dnf migration period

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On Friday, March 13, 2015 03:05:37 PM David Gay wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > From: "Mike Ruckman" <roshi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Fedora Cloud SIG" <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:29:28 AM
> > Subject: dnf migration period
> > 
> > Greetings fellow cloudies!
> > 
> > This bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201655) spawned a
> > conversation on IRC that we thought should be moved here to the list.
> > 
> > With the migration from yum to dnf in full swing, we've got to figure
> > out what the intent translates to regarding packages installed on the
> > cloud image. Currently, yum is not installed on the cloud images, only
> > dnf. Judging by this discussion during a fesco meeting [0], this is
> > known and expected.
> > 
> > The other flavors (Workstation and Server) both have yum installed upon
> > fresh installation. libreport pulls yum in as a dep - so yum is only
> > there until libreport gets migrated. The question for us is, do we want
> > a migration period for cloud users to have time to migrate their tools
> > to dnf? I think from a mere usability standpoint, it makes sense to have
> > yum and dnf installed alongside each other so things don't break; but I
> > can see both sides of the argument.
> > 
> > More information on the history of this discussion can be found in the
> > meeting log [0], and this fesco ticket [1].
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> > 
> > [0]
> > http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2015-02-25-18.01.log.ht
> > ml [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1312
> > 
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> > // Mike
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> I don't see a problem with keeping both installed alongside each other for
> now, as long as people are aware that they *need* to migrate to dnf. We
> don't want a Python 2 -> 3 "migration period". :P

dnf in rawhide is python3 based 

Dennis

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