Greetings fellow cloudies! This bug (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1201655) spawned a conversation on IRC that we thought should be moved here to the list. With the migration from yum to dnf in full swing, we've got to figure out what the intent translates to regarding packages installed on the cloud image. Currently, yum is not installed on the cloud images, only dnf. Judging by this discussion during a fesco meeting [0], this is known and expected. The other flavors (Workstation and Server) both have yum installed upon fresh installation. libreport pulls yum in as a dep - so yum is only there until libreport gets migrated. The question for us is, do we want a migration period for cloud users to have time to migrate their tools to dnf? I think from a mere usability standpoint, it makes sense to have yum and dnf installed alongside each other so things don't break; but I can see both sides of the argument. More information on the history of this discussion can be found in the meeting log [0], and this fesco ticket [1]. Thoughts? [0] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2015-02-25-18.01.log.html [1] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1312 -- // Mike -- Fedora QA freenode: roshi http://roshi.fedorapeople.org _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct