On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 4:32 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all. At today's Fedora Council "virtual face-to-face" meeting, we > decided that it's time to move our discussion from this mailing list > and IRC to more modern platforms: namely, Discourse via > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ and Matrix via ... something yet > to be determined, but probably initially a channel on element.io and > then eventually our own server. > What do you hope to gain from moving Council discussions to Discourse? > Some Fedora Teams, like the Magazine, have already moved from the > mailing list, and noted a significant increase in visiblity and > participation. The fact is, even those of us who proudly self-identify > as "old school" are reluctant to sign up for yet-another-mailing-list > these days. It's a serious barrier to project entry. > > And IRC ... it's served us well, but... it's also not kept up, and it's > *long* been a problem we've seen in attracting new contributors. More > and more new projects turn to Slack or Discord for their real-time > discussions. I'd like us to move to something open source while such > things are viable, and hopefully by doing so help them stay > competitive. Since we don't have a Matrix server up and running, this > is a little further off, but I wanted to mention it here. > > In any case, we plan to: > > * Bridge IRC and Matrix, so that you can stay on IRC and interact if > that's your preference. Freenode isn't going away anytime soon! > > * Plan to port zodbot to be a Matrix-native bot, so we can have logged > meetings, cookies-with-badges, adamw "firing" people, etc. > > * Retire this list for new posts (tentatively, starting December 1st), > and instead direct conversation to > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/council-discuss/60 > > * Set up a bot to automatically post summaries of discussion from that > category to this list, so that long-term subscribers aren't left out > > Note that unlike a "BB"-style web forum, you can interact with > discussion.fedoraproject.org via email, including getting individual > new posts and responding in your mail client. It isn't quite a > first-class experience, though -- there are many features which are web > only. > > Any questions about any of this? Anything I haven't thought of? > I would strongly not recommend promoting the email features of Discourse. They're pretty terrible to work with from an email-workflow perspective. Personally, I'm fortunate that I don't have to discuss with the Council too much, or this might actually be a huge problem for me. The intent to move to Matrix, however, is quite welcome. I'm looking forward to helping there wherever I can. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
