Re: Fedora Censorship status

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 4:08 PM Daniel Pocock <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 21/09/2020 21:54, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:27 PM Daniel Pocock <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> On 21/09/2020 21:08, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:43 PM Daniel Pocock <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >>>>
> >>>> At various times this year, people have written things that appeared on
> >>>> Planet Fedora and other people had no right of reply because their blogs
> >>>> were never included there or blogs had been actively censored.
> >>>>
> >>>> Given the latest discussions taking place about what potentially amounts
> >>>> to censorship, I feel it is critical that anybody with a view is able to
> >>>> use all communication channels, including Planet Fedora, to draw
> >>>> attention to whatever concerns they have.
> >>>
> >>> Since we're offering opinions, I'll offer mine as well.
> >>>
> >>> I feel the opposite and find blog posts unrelated to Fedora appearing
> >>> on Planet Fedora to be a distraction.  I also feel that this isn't
> >>> censorship as there is no inherent right to post whatever people want
> >>> on Fedora run services.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nonetheless, if somebody does in fact post a distraction, why shouldn't
> >> people impacted by the distraction have a right-of-reply, in your terms,
> >> posting a counter-distraction?
> >
> > This is a good question.  I would do 2 things.
> >
> > 1) Offer the ability for people to make take-down requests, removing
> > the specific post from the aggregator.
> > 2) If 1 got too large then just remove the aggregator entirely and
> > replace it with vetted and curated blog posts driven through the a
> > dedicated Fedora SIG focused on reviewing the content.
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>
> Fedora is full of smart people with smart ideas
>
> For example, did you know somebody registered fedora.community back in
> 2015?  They deserve a medal.
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> Your idea is equally smart:
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> - an uncurated planet
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> - a curated newsletter (or alternative planet)

That would be your idea.  I would not advocate for an uncurated planet.

> Each person can then choose which one they subscribe to.  Before the
> web, most organizations, from football clubs to student unions only had
> the latter, a curated newsletter.
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> The funny thing is, this split already started to happen with
>   uncensored.some-other.community vs planet.some-other.org
>
> I'm glad we are in agreement.  If nobody else volunteers, I'd volunteer
> to work on the curated.fedora.community site.

We aren't in agreement, but it is good to know you are willing to volunteer.

josh
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