On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 5:29 PM Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On 10.10.18 17:29, Sanja Bonic wrote: > > It's important to look at the user base of who is preferring mailing > > lists and how it holds up for new users. Mailing lists are the preferred > > way for most people who've used them for a long time, but new users > > (newcomers to open source, younger people) definitely prefer to write on > > a forum and for that experience, it's better if it's a more modern one > > with relevant features that enhance user experience. > > I agree with that 100% - that was the rationale for Hyperkitty's > creation several years ago. Even for long time, experienced & technical > Fedora contributors contributing design talent to the project, the old > school mailing list style of communication was limiting our efforts to > recruit. > > While not being able to follow the council via mail is a barrier for me > personally as an old-timer, I also understand my needs aren't the > primary ones here. > > However, if Discourse is only available via webui and the email > notification system is limited, then I'd worry about it lacking the > network effects to get new users coming back. When a system is built on > email, there's at least a mechanism to receive notifications (easily > turned off in HK) to keep you engaged with the community. When it's a > random web url + sign up, what is driving repeat visits? If the discourse/forum threads are easier and more engaging for new contributors of today versus mailing lists, then I think we have two answers here. Those who are engaged and want to be regular contributors are already in a routine where visiting these sites regularly is going to happen. The other is that we may see a rise in episodic contributors. I just finished contributing to a study on episodic contributors and look forward to seeing the final results. We may find that we are able to boost our episodic contribution rate in a way that effectively grows our project and really focuses in on our mission of helping people serve their communities of choice. Also, on the email notification side, I have enabled "watch first post" in areas of my interest. It is brilliant. Whenever a new thread starts, I get an email. At that point I only get follow ups on threads I find interest in. regards, bex > > It'll certainly be interesting to see how it works in practice! > > ~m > _______________________________________________ > council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- Brian (bex) Exelbierd | bexelbie@xxxxxxxxxx | bex@xxxxxxxxx Fedora Community Action & Impact Coordinator @bexelbie | http://www.winglemeyer.org _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx