On 15 September 2014 02:17, Jaroslav Reznik <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Christoph list is still too large, if we want an effective committee,
> it should be able to hold regular phone calls or meet important
> stakeholders of the project one or twice a year.
>
> 0. FPL (chairman)
> 1. Technical Committee representative (FESCo, Release Engineering, QA,
> Product)
> 2. Infrastructure/Web representative
> 3. Outreach representative (marketing, ambassadors)
> 4. appointed seat
> 5. appointed seat
> 6. appointed seat
> 7. elected seat
> 8. elected seat
> 9. elected seat
This way, you will get back almost to the standard board we had so far.
We're looking how to make *do-ers* talk together and *do* more together.
I'm not saying elected/appointed folks were not doing anything - they
do the great job in all bodies, but in my view, council should be
something different than Board and actually I think it should be
supplement to Board, not replacement. Even looking on this discussion,
I'd say if we do it as supplement, then council could be very informal
body working towards cooperation with direct invitation to a selected
folks and free to join for everyone. It somehow feels more Fedora way
than what we have now.
OK here is one issue I have not seen addressed. Many of the do'ers are pretty much over doing it already. Adding another committee or meeting a week is not going to help them in any shape or form beyond drive them into feeling they are accomplishing less per week and having to spend time dealing with things they aren't interested in (meetings and other social things).
Many of the people I run into making changes, doing code fixes, driving things forward aren't really social people. They like doing the thing they are doing and would prefer to keep social things to as little as possible as it is usually a huge drain of energy and concentration in being social. It also leads to them not feeling like they have enough time or energy to actually spend it working with others to spread the load anywhere... as they feel less in control of what they are doing and less likely to feel someone else can pick up and help anywhere. Which leads to fewer do'ers and those do'ers having to spend more time in meetings to coordinate the vast amounts of social things needed from them.
So how can we actually make things less about meetings and more about doing and how to make it so critical do'ers can spread their knowledge out so they don't burn out.
Jaroslav
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