On 03/02/2011 07:24 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: > On 03/02/2011 02:11 PM, Richard Fontana wrote: >> AFAICT the purpose of requiring signatures, or the equivalent >> (clicking buttons, etc.) is to make it possible to sue people. You >> don't seriously want to, or think you will be able to, sue people who >> violate the Code of Conduct, right? > I don't necessarily agree with this assessment. Certainly, from the > perspective of the ICLA/FPCA, it is a legal agreement between two > parties (Fedora and the contributor), which is why we require > click-through agreement, but the intent is not to make it possible to > sue people, But with this agreement Red Hat is now capable of doing so but could not do so before? > but to be able to have a record from contributors as to > their agreement to the ICLA/FPCA terms and for there to be a conscious > understanding on the part of the contributor that the terms of the > ICLA/FPCA apply to them. Is it possible to get some clarification and more information about the ICLA/FPCA in human language ( dont speak legaieaze ) What prompted for this change? What happens to those that already have agreed to the CLA? What happens to community members that are not willing to agree to ICLA/FPCA or refuses to take up a new legal agreement? > The Code of Conduct is not a legal document, but I do think there is > value in establishing a conscious understanding on the part of the > contributor that there is an expectation that they must either follow > the COC or face the consequences (which include, but are not limited to, > removal from the Fedora Community). Could you clarify a bit what other action can be taken? > I think that this can be accomplished without requiring contributors > click an "I agree" to the COC (and without tracking agreement to the > COC). I see the COC as more of a set of Bar Rules, posted on the wall in > a conspicuous place next to the Bartender. > > The fact that all of our contributors will be required to login to FAS > to agree to the FPCA in the near future presents a unique opportunity > for each one to also see the new Bar Rules at the same time. Perhaps > something like: > > "In addition to the new FPCA terms, Fedora now has a formal Code of > Conduct. A copy of this CoC is available here: https://foo.bar/baz > Please keep in mind that all Fedora Community members are expected to > follow the Code of Conduct." > Sounds reasonable. JBG _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
