2010/12/16 "JÃhann B. GuÃmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx>: > I thought I was still on topic with CW original post regardless if I am > or not if I have caused a lot of people a lot of anguish or even > offended anyone with my honest criticism I apologize for that. The issue isn't whether you think its on topic or not. The issue is you have suggested that Mairin is no longer on topic. The topic for you has drifted..it happens...its natural. If this were a face-to-face synchronized conversation around someone's kitchen table or at a bar...everyone listening would be _in the moment_ and points and issues raised several thousand words ago would not be a burden in understanding one another at the single _tip_ of the conversation. New people walking up to that face-to-face conversation would be expected to conform to the 2 minute rule of listening to the current topic and would not have a back log of many many posts that could be a jumping on point for their first interjection. A face-to-face conversation has a natural flow of _in the moment_ information transfer which makes it easy for topics to wander fluidly while keeping everyone listening in on the same page. Conversations in async archived discussions like mailinglists will not and cannot work the same way as a face-to-face conversation. The async nature of mailinglists make topic wandering much more problematic and require more structure to be useful mechanisms for discourse. Mailinglist participants need to be more more cognisant of the fact that its not ia single conversation between multiple people where everyone is _in the moment_ and up to speed. Unlike face-to-face conversations which wander from one topic to another in a sort of linear fashion.... mailinglists tend to bifurcate into many multiple conversations among the same people, Bifurcate instead of flow. You aren't really having the same conversation any more that Mairin is having..it just appears like you are because the subject line hasn't changed. Keeping it in the same thread only encourages misunderstanding. -jef _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board