On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 21:51 -0500, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > Now I wonder if you can take the next step, and consider "front page > real estate" one of those issues that might be worth discussing. > Because as of right now, it seems as though you're rejecting that > discussion out of hand. I've probably spent a lot more time discussing front page real estate on the website than most people in Fedora. Check this out: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/temp/woot/ Those 17 mockups of the main download page are just a fraction of the mockups and hours of discussion on IRC and mailing lists. With limited design resources is this the best way to be expending design time & effort? I'd personally rather work on things where I don't get accused of hubris and secret hidden evil intentions. > I believe that there are creative ways of making it clear that there > is One Approved Choice for the novice, while at the same time doing > more to celebrate some of our other spins. I really, truly, deeply > believe that. That's why we have a www.fedoraproject.org geared towards the novice, and spins.fedoraproject.org as more of an r&d-look-at-the-other-cool-things-fedora-can-do sort of space. We actually designed, developed, and launched spins.fedoraproject.org a full two releases before the new www.fedoraproject.org specifically to avoid the spins feeling outed. A lot of time, effort, and love went into both of those designs, but I can't force the spins owners to take advantage of what we built with & for them there. > Can we have that conversation without characterizing it as "a > choose-your-own adventure clubhouse type of affair"? When people stop telling me that large classes of users 'have no business' using Linux I will stop referring to them specifically as clubhousers. Hubristically yours, ~m _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board