On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 15:01, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> It's not like $LARGE_VENDOR is beating down our door looking to give large >> sums of money in infrastructure, legal advice, personnel, etc. What >> you're discussing isn't even worth talking about until someone else steps >> up and offers that. I don't see that happening any time soon. > > --- > > If you agree with the goal, then the burden is not on some large vendor to > be beating down on our door but for us within Fedora to reach out as much as > possible to other vendors and get them to participate. I see that already > happening and would like to continue to see it moving forward to a point > where as much as our infrastructure is hosted outside of Red Hat systems as > possible. There is a very big difference between giving us logins to an old server in your data-center and saying "We will take responsibility for the health of an overall organization." Many ISPs will do the first, but very few want to get in on the second. As soon as risk and responsibility become part of a conversation, the first question will be "How is this going to make our shareholders richer? and if so when?" For that question to be answered, it must mean that the corporation is going to know it has skin in the game.. that somehow losing Fedora would cost it more than not helping. -- Stephen J Smoogen. “The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance.” Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "We have a strategic plan. It's called doing things."" — Herb Kelleher, founder Southwest Airlines _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board