2009/10/21 Máirín Duffy <duffy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > 1) Fedora is a community that builds software, a set of projects on > fedorahosted.org, a set of spins on spins.fedoraproject.org - it's > basically a development platform for creating free & open source > software and applying free & open source software towards solving > specific problems. Sounds good. But next, we mention just one specific problem: > 2) Fedora is a desktop distribution. I really don't like elevating the desktop to this level. Fedora is an *operating system*, which the desktop is built on. In short maybe, "Fedora has a desktop", not "is". I've said before that we need to be producing a server spin. Why? Because if we want to be a community where you help develop the future of the Linux operating system, we can't omit the server (and other more specialized areas). What if say you're an IBM employee who wants to optimize power consumption on PowerPC. You take a look at everything from the kernel up to typical server apps (Samba, whatever). You likely want to first do this work on the *latest* versions of all of this software, from the kernel on up. It's crazy to tell people to start hacking from say the CentOS source RPMS, because a) hacking from source RPMS really, really sucks and b) what if some of your optimizations are already in the latest upstream kernel/glibc/samba etc.? After you've done the work there, then maybe you look at backporting it into a release stream. Another example; say you're Richard Jones from the Red Hat virt team, and you really want to reduce the disk space consumed by the minimal image install ( http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/why-minimal-is-225-mb/ ). How do you prevent someone from coming along later and adding some really large dependency to the minimal set? You do it upstream. In Fedora. I don't mean that on the get-fedora page, we start listing "minimal Amazon EC2 image" or whatever right next to the desktop. But we should be producing images for servers, we should be doing some kind of tests on them (disk space as above, etc.), and they should be linked somehow from the get-fedora page. This doesn't mean that we expect a lot of people to necessarily run those specific images, and maybe Fedora should make its relationship with some of its more prominent derived operating systems clear here, and at least mention them. But we should also be clear that we expect people to do development with us, and join the larger FOSS community (including the server) through us. _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
