On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 01:46:56PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
On 10/15/2009 12:18 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
And I think the point that Mike and I have been making on this list is
that given the claimed goals of fedora we shouldn't expect people who
are not religious about free software and heavily involved to get
ANYTHING out of fedora.
Sure, and I think you guys have done a good job advocating for that.
What I'm telling you here, though, is that I *am* the target user
you're advocating for (freetard/zealot, techie, contributor), and at
times I'm at my wit's end trying to use !rawhide Fedora.
In short we have a choice:
1. change the goals of fedora
OR
2. tell people we are intending for a small segment of the over
population and those folks who are not in that segment and/or are not
interested in becoming a member of that segment are NOT in the righr place.
I'm trying to point out if our goal was to only reach for
software-freedom-religious folks who are heavily involved in it, we
could still do a much better job for *them.*
A point that occurred to me that didn't make it into the conversation:
If anyone needs a user case less specific than Mairin, imagine a
Fedora Ambassador for instance. Surely we don't want to say to an
Ambassador, "Please contribute by promoting Fedora, but we'd rather
you adjust to our way of thinking rather than us accommodating you"?
Why not? If you change to whatever the latest group of users wants then
you're not leading, you're following.
-sv
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