On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Seth Vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 01:46:56PM -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: >>> >>> On 10/15/2009 12:18 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: >>>> >>>> And I think the point that Mike and I have been making on this list is >>>> that given the claimed goals of fedora we shouldn't expect people who >>>> are not religious about free software and heavily involved to get >>>> ANYTHING out of fedora. >>> >>> Sure, and I think you guys have done a good job advocating for that. >>> >>> What I'm telling you here, though, is that I *am* the target user >>> you're advocating for (freetard/zealot, techie, contributor), and at >>> times I'm at my wit's end trying to use !rawhide Fedora. >>> >>>> In short we have a choice: >>>> 1. change the goals of fedora >>>> >>>> OR >>>> >>>> 2. tell people we are intending for a small segment of the over >>>> population and those folks who are not in that segment and/or are not >>>> interested in becoming a member of that segment are NOT in the righr >>>> place. >>> >>> I'm trying to point out if our goal was to only reach for >>> software-freedom-religious folks who are heavily involved in it, we >>> could still do a much better job for *them.* >> >> A point that occurred to me that didn't make it into the conversation: >> If anyone needs a user case less specific than Mairin, imagine a >> Fedora Ambassador for instance. Surely we don't want to say to an >> Ambassador, "Please contribute by promoting Fedora, but we'd rather >> you adjust to our way of thinking rather than us accommodating you"? >> > > Why not? If you change to whatever the latest group of users wants then > you're not leading, you're following. And vice versa.. if you don't listen and adapt you end up behind what people would ever want to use. Its a conversation not a dictation which I think we have forgotten in our current society. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning _______________________________________________ fedora-advisory-board mailing list fedora-advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-advisory-board
