On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 11:58 -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:50:54AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-11-27 at 11:29 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > kind of thinking the opposite - we don't have _enough_ > > > > text. I'm no design expert so I don't know if it's considered 'old > > > > fashioned' or 'undiscoverable' to have a simple line or two explaining > > > > how a screen actually works > > > > > > The instant you need text to explain how a GUI works, your GUI is a failure. > > > Still, I don't want to veer off into the theoreticals too much as it'd > > be getting off track and I'd be bringing the metaphorical knife to a gun > > fight. If your dictum is the one the newUI design is being done by, then > > great: we don't need more text, but we _do_ need to make the design more > > discoverable somehow, because it demonstrably isn't entirely so right > > now. > > The design is discoverable, but I think the problem is that after so > many years of bottom-up construction they are confused by the new way of > thinking about things. > > When you do complex operations do you just dive right in? Or do you try > to learn how to use it first? It isn't always possible to make complex > things intuitive. I think that much of this could be fixed by > documentation and glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a > paragraph for each one. Right, that is my inclination too and hence my initial mail suggesting MOAR TEXT, but I'm willing to recognize you and I may be the aberrations and other people just buy a chainsaw, throw away the manual, point it at a tree and start poking buttons :) Whether we aim to document the approach and rely on people reading the instructions, try and clarify the approach through UI, or do both, I don't mind. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ Anaconda-devel-list mailing list Anaconda-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/anaconda-devel-list