Hi! I read most of the discussion. But I live, and intend to live, without pulseaudio, so some parts of the discussion are not of much interest to me. Pure alsa only. I dislike pulse. Actually... how do I put it? I do not believe it is easy to control a system with packages like systemd, dbus, pulseaudio, policykit from exploits that those poetterware programs do not properly defend from, if not worse. That is my opinion, I don't expect everybody to agree at all. Just saying I do trust ALSA, but not pulse... Relatively recently I learned of the move away from Alsa in Mozilla Firefox, which I use: Require PulseAudio on Linux https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1247056 which was a disappointment. That really means that I can't open, say a Youtube/Vimeo/some-other video, in Firefox if I don't install its pulseaudio dependency, which I don't want to do. My capabilities and time are limited, else I would have looked into what they say in that link: "build your own Firefox with ALSA enabled" and went for building Firefox on my own... I'm looking for a shortcut to having sound in Firefox. See more below... On 161114-16:49+0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 16:37:28 +0100, John P. Hartmann wrote: > >Other applications may need pulse audio to produce sound altogether. ... > > Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 16:37:28 +0100 > From: "John P. Hartmann" > To: Ralf Mardorf > Subject: Re: a strange thing ... > On my Ubuntu 14.4, the control panel applet for sound contains nothing > unless pulseaudio is running. I also discovered that firefox needs the > proper card configured in the applet, but once that is done, pulse > audio is not needed to run. > I wonder if that is true (in the sense that pulseaudio not running at all, not even its "daemon"), because Mozilla devs went for the pulseaudio dependency, as in the link furthe above that I gave, or do I misunderstand something in that paragraph above... But that forwarded email was the sole email that contained the string firefox in some 6 months worth of emails of my alsa-users subscription... Is there anywhere to be found, some not too complex tip/tutorial/something ... where to read/follow/do ... and get me a Firefox that does not need pulseaudio? So I can have audio when I watch videos from the web in Firefox. My machine is Gentoo AMD64. If I had more time, I would dedicate it to this, but sadly I do not have much time... Regards! -- Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr
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