Ralf and list,
On Nov 14, 2016 06:52, "Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 06:33:28 -0800, chris hermansen wrote:
> >On Nov 14, 2016 06:18, "Kristoffer Gustafsson" wrote:
> >> Is there a way to remove pulse audio then and just use alsa?
> >> If so I can use my soundcard without having to buy Another one.
> >
> >Please read the following
> >
> >http://kodi.wiki/view/PulseAudio/HOW-TO:_Disable_PulseAudio_and_use_ALSA_(without_removing_PulseAudio)_for_Ubuntu
> >
> >It explains why and how to disable pulse rather than uninstall it.
>
> 1.
>
> We don not know if pulseaudio is the culprit.
100% I agreement with you. That is why I suggested this approach since it is simple and might help further diagnose the problem.
>
> 2.
>
> Even if we should know that it is the culprit, depending on the OP's
> needs, it might be wiser to fix the issue and to use pulseaudio.
Again 100% in agreement with you.
>
> 3.
>
> Assuming regarding the OP needs it should be better to get rid of
> pulseaudio, then it would be idiotic to disable it, instead of removing
> it completely. Why should somebody disable it, if it's completely
> unwanted? If I don't need a package, I don't install it. If something I
> should need, works without it, but has got a hard dependency to it, I
> simply build an empty dumm package.
It's just an easy thing to try, Ralf. If the card works under this scenario too then some info is gained. If the card doesn't work, then only a minute has been lost but the idea that Pulse is the culprit is a little less believable.
>
> Any evidence for the below claim?
>
> "Removing or purging PulseAudio from a Ubuntu system can break other
> installed software and potentially cause errors and broken
> dependencies."
>
> This is just a claim without explanation. As already pointed out, just
> replace it by a dummy package, you even don't need to recompile
> software.
>
> If needed I could explain how to build a DEB dummy package and how to
> build an Arch Linux dummy package. I'm using them since pulseaudio does
> exist without ever experiencing an issue.
Seems to me that going to the effort of trying to remove Pulse is a bit premature, as you note below.
>
> But again, removing pulseaudio might not what the OP wants? It's just a
> _possibilities_ that pulseaudio is the culprit for the issues, nobody
> mentions that it's the cause for the issues.
My point exactly.
The OP is in an difficult situation. He wants to do a bunch of things; he isn't completely sure how as yet, because he can't get the most basic thing working.
If it seems like I was contradicting you, I was not. I composed my response and pushed send while your email was in the process of arriving.
Chris Hermansen
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