Hey Gents, On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 02:02:35PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 06:54:06AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > > So how do existing utf8/unicode enabled filesystems handle this? > > > > I think we should be consistent with ZFS, MacOS and others that > > already deal with this problem if at all possible. Here's a data point from man(zfs): The following three properties cannot be changed after the file system is created, and therefore, should be set when the file system is cre- ated. If the properties are not set with the "zfs create" or "zpool create" commands, these properties are inherited from the parent dataset. If the parent dataset lacks these properties due to having been created prior to these features being supported, the new file sys- tem will have the default values for these properties. casesensitivity = sensitive | insensitive | mixed Indicates whether the file name matching algorithm used by the file system should be case-sensitive, case-insensitive, or allow a com- bination of both styles of matching. The default value for the "casesensitivity" property is "sensitive." Traditionally, UNIX and POSIX file systems have case-sensitive file names. The "mixed" value for the "casesensitivity" property indicates that the file system can support requests for both case-sensitive and case-insensitive matching behavior. Currently, case-insensitive matching behavior on a file system that supports mixed behavior is limited to the Solaris CIFS server product. For more information about the "mixed" value behavior, see the ZFS Administration Guide. normalization =none | formD | formKCf Indicates whether the file system should perform a unicode normal- ization of file names whenever two file names are compared, and which normalization algorithm should be used. File names are always stored unmodified, names are normalized as part of any comparison process. If this property is set to a legal value other than "none," and the "utf8only" property was left unspecified, the "utf8only" property is automatically set to "on." The default value of the "normalization" property is "none." This property cannot be changed after the file system is created. utf8only =on | off Indicates whether the file system should reject file names that include characters that are not present in the UTF-8 character code set. If this property is explicitly set to "off," the normalization property must either not be explicitly set or be set to "none." The default value for the "utf8only" property is "off." This property cannot be changed after the file system is created. The "casesensitivity," "normalization," and "utf8only" properties are also new permissions that can be assigned to non-privileged users by using the ZFS delegated administration feature. The original link: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=zfs&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8.1-RELEASE&format=html > > However, this > > really is a wider policy decision for the kernel/VFS as we want > > consistent behaviour across all linux filesystems, hence this > > patchset really needs to discussed at the lkml/-fsdevel level... > > Absolutely. I've also talked to a few Samba folks at SDC, and one > thing they would love to see is conditional case insensitive lookups, > e.g.: > > - we hash case insensitive with collisions, but perform normal case > sensitive lookups. > - with a new AT_CASE_INSENSTIVE flag to the various *at calls that > gets passed down to the dcache we enable CI lookups. I'm working on addressing some of the initial feedback and will be in a position to post for a wider audience later in the week. Thanks, Ben _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs