On 5/10/13 5:19 AM, Bernd Schubert wrote: > On 05/09/2013 02:41 AM, Dave Chinner wrote: >> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 07:48:04PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: >>> On 05/08/2013 12:07 AM, Dave Chinner wrote: >>>> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 01:18:13PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: >>>>> On 05/07/2013 03:12 AM, Dave Chinner wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 02:47:31PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: >>>>>>> On 05/06/2013 02:28 PM, Dave Chinner wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 10:14:22AM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: >>>>>>>>> And anpther protection fault, this time with 3.9.0. Always happens >>>>>>>>> on one of the servers. Its ECC memory, so I don't suspect a faulty >>>>>>>>> memory bank. Going to fsck now- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_What_information_should_I_include_when_reporting_a_problem.3F >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Isn't that a bit overhead? And I can't provide /proc/meminfo and >>>>>>> others, as this issue causes a kernel panic a few traces later. >>>>>> >>>>>> Provide what information you can. Without knowing a single thing >>>>>> about your hardware, storage config and workload, I can't help you >>>>>> at all. You're asking me to find a needle in a haystack blindfolded >>>>>> and with both hands tied behind my back.... >>>>> >>>>> I see that xfs_info, meminfo, etc are useful, but /proc/mounts? >>>>> Maybe you want "cat /proc/mounts | grep xfs"?. Attached is the >>>>> output of /proc/mounts, please let me know if you were really >>>>> interested in all of that non-xfs output? >>>> >>>> Yes. You never know what is relevant to a problem that is reported, >>>> especially if there are multiple filesystems sharing the same >>>> device... >>> >>> Hmm, I see. But you need to extend your questions to multipathing >>> and shared storage. If you'd like to add that to the wiki it'd be great. >> why would we? Anyone using such a configuration reporting a bug >> usually is clueful enough to mention it in their bug report when >> describing their RAID/LVM setup. The FAQ entry covers the basic >> information needed to start meaingful triage, not *all* the >> infomration we might ask for. It's the baseline we start from. >> >> Indeed, the FAQ exists because I got sick of asking people for the >> same information several times a week, every week in response to >> poor bug reports like yours. it's far more efficient to paste a link >> several times a week. i.e. The FAQ entry is there for my benefit, >> not yours. > > Poor bug report or not, most information you ask about in the FAQ are entirely irrelevant for this issue. If I had a dollar for every time a bug reporter left out "irrelevant" information that turned out to be critical, I might be retired by now. :) If a few developers on the list are going to scale to supporting every user with a problem, we need to share the effort efficiently, and that means putting just a bit more burden on the reporter, to cut down on the back and forth cycles of trying to gather more information. If anyone wants a quick & useful project, perhaps a script which gathers all requested info in the faq would be a step in the right direction. -Eric _______________________________________________ xfs mailing list xfs@xxxxxxxxxxx http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs