On Wed, 12-Jun-2002 at 12:08AM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
|> Sorry not to be able to give you much details: I usally don't have
|> any modeline and synch info in my config (4.1) X seems to find its
|> way, I append an example of my monitor section:
|> Section "Monitor"
|> Identifier "my monitor"
|> VendorName "Unknown"
|> ModelName "Unknown"
|> HorizSync 31-70 # it's a rather old beast with modest specs
|> VertRefresh 55-120
|> Option "dpms"
|> EndSection
|>
>From my understanding, that would use the highest dots clock possible.
I want to use a lower one on account of interference produced from the
highest dots clock. I think I need to reduce it from 99 to 85. There
must a way of specifying just which frequencies something like how it
was done with modlines, but the most recent HOW-TOs seem to indicate
it's all trivial and seem to refer to XF86Config (not XF86Config-4)
with the objective of getting a default configuration to work, but I
don't notice anything in Linux XFree86 HOWTO that refers to what I'm
interested in. I don't think .xinitrc is the area I'm interested in.
|> I would assume that unless you are faced with a ticklish monitor
you could also do it that way
|> -hsync means something different from
|> -Hsync (don't ask me what I knew it long ago but have
|> forgotten, there is an HOWTO as well as a small program to mess
|> around with these parameters if you go into the docs...)
I also didn't notice anything in XFree86 Video Timings HOWTO about
such a difference. Perhaps I missed it. If they're different, I
could be doing damage. Perhaps for the particular mode I'm interested
in, it makes sense to have the section empty? On two different
systems, it comes up so. One machine seems to be using it -- or at
least something that has that frequency and resolution information.
|> Those modelines were found more often in 3.3.6 configs are you
|> running 3.3.6?
No. It's XFree86 Version 4.2.0 (Red Hat Linux release: 4.2.0-8). I'm
still mystified about the XF86Config-4 file which appears not to be
used -- at lest WRT dots clock and resolution.
best
P
|> Lionel
|>
|> --- Patrick Connolly <p.connolly@hortresearch.co.nz> wrote:
|> > On Tue, 11-Jun-2002 at 06:59AM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
|> >
|> > |> The reasonable way to find out which version of X you are running
|> > |> is to either do X -version or look in the log
|> >
|> > That's a more obvious way, of course. I can't quite imagine what the
|> > thinking would be behind the directions RedHat gives.
|> >
|> >
|> > |> (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) Once you know what you are running,
|> > |> assuming you have both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x then you can switch from the
|> >
|> > I'm not particularly interested in changing between them. It works
|> > fine except I'd like to change the dots clock. I just want to know
|> > where the best place to modify the configuration is.
|> >
|> > It might make sense to copy the modeline and corresponding lines from
|> > XF86Config to XF86Config-4 so that they'll be used there -- I use
|> > Version 4.2.0. But do we know the XF86Config file will be ignored?
|> > That's the sort of information I would like to have clarified.
|> >
|> > I'm a little reluctant to try it out since the line I'd like to be able
|> > to use makes no mention of -hsync and -vsync.
|> >
|> > # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
|> > Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
|> >
|> > Or would it be better to simply quote out the line I don't want used?
|> > BTW: Is '-hsync' the same as '-Hsync'? It appears from other parts of
|> > the file to be so, but it might be in error.
|> >
|> > best
|> >
|> > P
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> >
|> > |> --- Patrick Connolly <p.connolly@hortresearch.co.nz> wrote:
|> > |> > On Mon, 10-Jun-2002 at 11:52PM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
|> > |> >
|> > |> > |> I am afraid the XF86Config-4 files are only supplied by a couple of
|> > |> > |> distributions (RH for instance) because they provide BOTH 3.3.6 and
|> > |> > |> 4.x.x. As a consequence it is not a standard and is probably only
|> > |> > |> documented (if at all) in those distributions. As an aside, I am
|> > |> > |> surprised to find out that The files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 are
|> > |> > |> used: on one of my PC I am running RH 7.1 with both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x
|> > |> > |> (depending on the user id, with 3.3.6 I get acceleration not with
|> > |> > |> 4.x.x -its an old PC) in my case, I doubt very much that anything
|> > |> > |> else than what is in /etc/X11 is used...
|> > |> >
|> > |> > Could it just be that it's detail not tidied up properly?
|> > |> >
|> > |> > |> Anyhow, If you are using only one version why not copy the relevant
|> > |> > |> file onto the other.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > Basically because I don't know what I'm doing yet. I was hoping to
|> > |> > find documentation to rectify the matter. I wanted to be able to
|> > |> > change the vertical refresh rate (and by implication, the dot clock)
|> > |> > and I wanted to find out the most koshur way of doing it.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > The RedHat docs tell me:
|> > |> >
|> > |> > <quote>
|> > |> > First, see which version of X you are running. Type this command:
|> > |> > ls -l /etc/X11/X
|> > |> >
|> > |> > If it is linked to a file that has XF86 in the name (such as
|> > |> > /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA) then you are using XFree86 3.3.x. If the
|> > |> > file that it is linked to is XFree86 then you are using XFree86 4.x.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > If you are running 3.3.x, look at the file /etc/X11/XF86Config. If
|> > |> > your are running 4, then look at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4...... {That was
|> > |> > to do with looking for color depth, but the same applies to modelines.]
|> > |> > </quote>
|> > |> >
|> > |> > This gives contradictory information. According to this, I'm running
|> > |> > XFree86 4.x, but my system can't be using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
|> > |> > file because it doesn't cover the resolution I am using -- that
|> > |> > information MUST be coming from the XF86Config file. So, until I
|> > |> > understand what is meant to be going on, I'm a bit reticent to be very
|> > |> > adventurous.
|> > |> >
|> > |> > best
|> > |> >
|> > |> > P
|> > |> >
|> > |> >
|> > |> >
|> > |> >
|> > |> > |>
|> > |> > |>
|> > |> > |> --- Patrick Connolly <p.connolly@hortresearch.co.nz> wrote:
|> > |> > |> > Contrary to what people tell me, it seems to be certain that
|> > |> > |> > XF86Config files are still necessary since the XF86Config-4 is too
|> > |> > |> > sparse. Is there documentation that covers how these files are
|> > |> > |> > linked?
|> > |> > |> >
|> > |> > |> > I'm finding it confusing to work out why /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
|> > |> > |> > links to /etc/X11/XF86Config, not /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when the new
|> > |> > |> > format is ostensibly taken care of in the -4 file.
|> > |> > |> >
|> > |> > |> > Points to docs, please. The HOW-TOs don't seem to cover it.
|> > |> > |> >
|> > |> > |> > best
|> > |> > |> >
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