Re: [Newbie]Documentation to do with how XF86Config & XF86Config-4 files

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Sorry not to be able to give you much details: I usally don't have any modeline and synch info in
my config (4.1) X seems to find its way, I append an example of my monitor section:
Section "Monitor"
	Identifier "my monitor"
	VendorName "Unknown"
	ModelName  "Unknown"
	HorizSync 31-70 # it's a rather old beast with modest specs
	VertRefresh 55-120
	Option "dpms"
EndSection

I would assume that unless you are faced with a ticklish monitor you could also do it that way
-hsync means something different from -Hsync (don't ask me what I knew it long ago but have
forgotten, there is an HOWTO as well as a small program to mess around with these parameters if
you go into the docs...)
Those modelines were found more often in 3.3.6 configs are you running 3.3.6?
Lionel 

--- Patrick Connolly <p.connolly@hortresearch.co.nz> wrote:
> On Tue, 11-Jun-2002 at 06:59AM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
> 
> |> The reasonable way to find out which version of X you are running
> |> is to either do X -version or look in the log
> 
> That's a more obvious way, of course.  I can't quite imagine what the
> thinking would be behind the directions RedHat gives.
> 
> 
> |> (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) Once you know what you are running,
> |> assuming you have both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x then you can switch from the
> 
> I'm not particularly interested in changing between them.  It works
> fine except I'd like to change the dots clock.  I just want to know
> where the best place to modify the configuration is.
> 
> It might make sense to copy the modeline and corresponding lines from
> XF86Config to XF86Config-4 so that they'll be used there -- I use
> Version 4.2.0.  But do we know the XF86Config file will be ignored?
> That's the sort of information I would like to have clarified.
> 
> I'm a little reluctant to try it out since the line I'd like to be able
> to use makes no mention of -hsync and -vsync.
> 
> # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
> Modeline "1024x768"    85    1024 1032 1152 1360   768  784  787  823
> 
> Or would it be better to simply quote out the line I don't want used?
> BTW: Is '-hsync' the same as '-Hsync'?  It appears from other parts of
> the file to be so, but it might be in error.
> 
> best
> 
> P
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> |> --- Patrick Connolly <p.connolly@hortresearch.co.nz> wrote:
> |> > On Mon, 10-Jun-2002 at 11:52PM -0700, Lionel Lecoq wrote:
> |> > 
> |> > |> I am afraid the XF86Config-4 files are only supplied by a couple of
> |> > |> distributions (RH for instance) because they provide BOTH 3.3.6 and
> |> > |> 4.x.x. As a consequence it is not a standard and is probably only
> |> > |> documented (if at all) in those distributions.  As an aside, I am
> |> > |> surprised to find out that The files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11 are
> |> > |> used: on one of my PC I am running RH 7.1 with both 3.3.6 and 4.x.x
> |> > |> (depending on the user id, with 3.3.6 I get acceleration not with
> |> > |> 4.x.x -its an old PC) in my case, I doubt very much that anything
> |> > |> else than what is in /etc/X11 is used...
> |> > 
> |> > Could it just be that it's detail not tidied up properly?
> |> > 
> |> > |> Anyhow, If you are using only one version why not copy the relevant
> |> > |> file onto the other.
> |> > 
> |> > Basically because I don't know what I'm doing yet.  I was hoping to
> |> > find documentation to rectify the matter.  I wanted to be able to
> |> > change the vertical refresh rate (and by implication, the dot clock)
> |> > and I wanted to find out the most koshur way of doing it.
> |> > 
> |> > The RedHat docs tell me:
> |> > 
> |> > <quote>
> |> > First, see which version of X you are running.  Type this command:
> |> > ls -l /etc/X11/X
> |> > 
> |> > If it is linked to a file that has XF86 in the name (such as
> |> > /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA) then you are using XFree86 3.3.x.  If the
> |> > file that it is linked to is XFree86 then you are using XFree86 4.x.
> |> > 
> |> > If you are running 3.3.x, look at the file /etc/X11/XF86Config.  If
> |> > your are running 4, then look at /etc/X11/XF86Config-4...... {That was
> |> > to do with looking for color depth, but the same applies to modelines.]
> |> > </quote>
> |> > 
> |> > This gives contradictory information.  According to this, I'm running
> |> > XFree86 4.x, but my system can't be using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> |> > file because it doesn't cover the resolution I am using -- that
> |> > information MUST be coming from the XF86Config file.  So, until I
> |> > understand what is meant to be going on, I'm a bit reticent to be very
> |> > adventurous.
> |> > 
> |> > best
> |> > 
> |> > P
> |> > 
> |> > 
> |> > 
> |> > 
> |> > |> 
> |> > |> 
> |> > |> --- Patrick Connolly <p.connolly@hortresearch.co.nz> wrote:
> |> > |> > Contrary to what people tell me, it seems to be certain that
> |> > |> > XF86Config files are still necessary since the XF86Config-4 is too
> |> > |> > sparse.  Is there documentation that covers how these files are
> |> > |> > linked?
> |> > |> > 
> |> > |> > I'm finding it confusing to work out why /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> |> > |> > links to /etc/X11/XF86Config, not /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 when the new
> |> > |> > format is ostensibly taken care of in the -4 file.
> |> > |> > 
> |> > |> > Points to docs, please.  The HOW-TOs don't seem to cover it.
> |> > |> > 
> |> > |> > best
> |> > |> > 
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