RE: XDP multi-buffer and AF_XDP

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kal Cutter Conley <kal.conley@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 12:51 PM
> To: Sarkar, Tirthendu <tirthendu.sarkar@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Fijalkowski, Maciej <maciej.fijalkowski@xxxxxxxxx>; Karlsson, Magnus
> <magnus.karlsson@xxxxxxxxx>; eric@xxxxxxxx; Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> <jbrouer@xxxxxxxxxx>; Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@xxxxxxxxxx>; Xdp
> <xdp-newbies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: XDP multi-buffer and AF_XDP
> 
> What about using huge pages for the UMEM and the unaligned chunk flag to
> receive jumbo frames with AF_XDP? Last time I checked this wasn't
> supported. Is this something that works today without XDP multi-buffer?

Still does not work but would be a very welcome addition since it is faster than multi-buffer. Note that this requires driver work too, at least for Intel drivers. They will split a 9K packet into 3 frames instead of keeping it in one single 9K frame even though the hardware supports it. The unaligned extensions to the core AF_XDP code, I believe would be straight-forward though.

/Magnus

> Kal
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 11:12 AM Sarkar, Tirthendu
> <tirthendu.sarkar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kal,
> >
> > I have been working on implementing the XDP multi-buffer for i40e but got
> stuck with performance issues. I also have the AF_XDP patches and may be
> we can focus on them instead. What NIC are you working on?
> >
> > + Magnus
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tirtha
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kal Cutter Conley <kal.conley@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 5:52 PM
> > > To: Fijalkowski, Maciej <maciej.fijalkowski@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: eric@xxxxxxxx; Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@xxxxxxxxxx>; Toke
> > > Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@xxxxxxxxxx>; Xdp <xdp-
> > > newbies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sarkar, Tirthendu
> > > <tirthendu.sarkar@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: XDP multi-buffer and AF_XDP
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > Does anyone know if any progress has been made with respect to
> > > multi- buffer support with AF_XDP? I would also like to help.
> > >
> > > Kal
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 1:12 PM Maciej Fijalkowski
> > > <maciej.fijalkowski@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 09:52:02AM -0400, eric@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2022 at 01:26:12PM +0000, Karlsson, Magnus wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 3:13 PM
> > > > > > > To: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@xxxxxxxxxx>; Kal Cutter
> > > > > > > Conley <kal.conley@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Xdp
> > > > > > > <xdp-newbies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > Cc: Brouer, Jesper <brouer@xxxxxxxxxx>; Lorenzo Bianconi
> > > > > > > <lorenzo.bianconi@xxxxxxxxxx>; Karlsson, Magnus
> > > > > > > <magnus.karlsson@xxxxxxxxx>; eric.david.sage@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: XDP multi-buffer and AF_XDP
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 01/04/2022 13.39, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Kal Cutter Conley <kal.conley@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>> We are very interested in receiving jumbo frames (> 8000
> > > > > > > >>> bytes) over AF_XDP. Does XDP multi-buffer support
> > > XDP_REDIRECT with AF_XDP?
> > > > > > > What
> > > > > > > >>> about in zero-copy mode?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Cheers,
> > > > > > > >>> Kal
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Looking into this more I found this comment in the mlx5 driver:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> /* Don't enable multi buffer on XDP_REDIRECT SQ, as it's
> > > > > > > >> not yet
> > > > > > > >> * supported by upstream, and there is no defined trigger
> > > > > > > >> to allow
> > > > > > > >> * transmitting redirected multi-buffer frames.
> > > > > > > >> */
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> So at least mlx5 does not yet support XDP multi-buffer
> > > > > > > >> with XDP_REDIRECT. What "upstream" support is required to
> > > > > > > >> get
> > > > > > > XDP_REDIRECT
> > > > > > > >> to work with XSKs?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, the initial patch set for multibuf explicitly
> > > > > > > > blocked XDP_REDIRECT between interfaces, which is what
> > > > > > > > that comment is referring to (the TX side).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For AF_XDP we'd also need to define the UAPI, and maybe
> > > > > > > > add a socket flag so the userspace program can signal to
> > > > > > > > the kernel that it understands it? Not sure about the details.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You're definitely not the only person who wants this,
> > > > > > > > though; adding in some people who may have a better idea
> > > > > > > > of the exact
> > > steps needed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cc. Eric Sage, as he also expressed interest in implementing this...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Adding Tirtha that has patches for the AF_XDP support of multi-
> buffer.
> > > > > > Though, he is currently integrating his i40e multi-buffer
> > > > > > driver support with Lorenzo's TX-patches that he sent as an
> > > > > > RFC. Latest I heard is that Tirtha is planning on submitting
> > > > > > this in a couple of weeks as a proper patch to the mailing
> > > > > > list. And after that, the focus is to brush up the AF_XDP and
> > > > > > ZC support patches as we stopped trying to track Lorenzo's
> > > > > > multi-buffer patches at version 13 out
> > > of 23 ;-).
> > > > > > We just could not keep up.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, if there is anything I can do to help please let me know. My
> > > > > company needs this feature so I can work on it full time. I
> > > > > would love to
> > > help out however I can.
> > > >
> > > > Hey Eric! We'll keep you in loop in terms of progress around this work.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Eric Sage
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Jesper
> > > > > >




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