Re: Planned changes for to reduce the "Bugzilla blues"

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On 10/2/22 21:40, Willy Tarreau wrote:
On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 09:27:40PM +0000, Artem S. Tashkinov wrote:
Which is why in the general case, you really should consider email to
be the "lingua franca" of kernel development communication.  It
doesn't have the fundamental limitations and management issues that
bugzilla has. If you want to add more people to the Cc in an email,
you just do it.

Attention, Linus, the problem is attention.

Once something is filed in bugzilla, it's public, it's easily
accessible, it can easily be found, you can easily add new info.

Emails? You've flown to Japan to a conference for a week and you have
much better things than to check any email updates. A week worth of
emails have suddenly become worthless.

Serious ? Have you ever attended a conference and looked over the
shoulder of the person in front of you ? There are 3 types of interfaces
you see:
   - code
   - slides
   - mails

The last thing people will look at during a conference definitely is a
painfully depressive bugtracker interface. However they will see bug
reports in their mailbox as they happen to read emails from their boss
or customers.

I meant people who are at conferences or on vacation normally stop
working with their work related mailing lists. I vividly remember Linus
mailing something like this, "I've flown somewhere, I won't have
[stable] Internet, please postpone this and that". At least a couple of

Here's yet another issue, how would you send a follow up if you don't
know the reference ("References" email field)? Instead of a follow up
it'll end up being a new unrelated email.

You don't have such a problem with email. It only happens when you try
to respond via e-mail to stuff you find in a browser.

That implies you've been subscribed to the mailing list earlier. Will
not work for the vast majority of people.


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