Hi Thorsten, On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:35:16AM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 29.09.22 18:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:54:17AM -0400, Slade Watkins wrote: > >>> On Sep 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've mentioned several times already that mailing lists are _even worse_ > >>> in terms of reporting issues. Developers get emails and simply ignore > >>> them (for a multitude of reasons). > >> > >> It’s 100% true that emails get _buried_ as waves of them come in (LKML > >> itself gets hundreds upon hundreds a day, as I’m sure all of you know) > >> and it just isn’t something I personally see as viable, especially for > >> issues that may or may not be high priority. > > > > E-mails are not that bad to report issues, but they can't provide the > > core feature that any bug tracker oughts to have: tracking. There's no > > way, with the tools we have at the moment (including public-inbox, b4 > > and lei), to track the status of bug reports and fixes. > > Well, I'd disagree partially with that, as my regression tracking bot > "regzbot" > (https://gitlab.com/knurd42/regzbot/-/blob/main/docs/getting_started.md > ; https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/mainline/) does > exactly does that: tracking, by connect the dots (e.g. monitoring > replies to a report as well recording when patches are posted or > committed that link to the report using Link: tags), while making sure > nothing important is forgotten. But sure, it's still very rough and > definitely not a full bug-tracker (my goal is/was to not create yet > another one) and needs quite a bit of hand holding from my side. And I > only use it for regressions and not for bugs (on purpose). Patchwork does something similar for patches, and I agree that it would be possible to use e-mail to manage and track bug reports with tools on top (and don't worry, I'm not asking for regzbot to be turned into a bug tracker :-)). It however has to rely on lots of heuristics at the moment, as the data we exchange over e-mail is free-formed and lacks structure. I've been dreaming of support for structured data in e-mails, but that's a pipe dream really. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart